I was watching schuhbart a bit and he seemed to prefer shurelya's still. Moonstone I haven't tried yet but it'd be crazy if riot let the item stay bad on sona.

Mandate being cheaper + not mythic is interesting for nami since you can get it earlier and go mandate/shurelya's together but idk.

How do you feel about echoes on nami? Does it feel better or is it just a shureliyas type of meta?

I was mousing over echoes on nami seeing it do more healing than damage, as opposed to morg echoes dmg/heal were about the same, so it seems like nami procs echoes without enemies in range to take damage.

Kind of a shame because the ap passive would be nice on nami. Idk maybe echoes is still good for ap/healing/damage in some fights.

for example

maybe sometimes it does more dmg though and the ap passive is good, the stats are definitely good

like idk the healing and ap are certainly great for nami, the dmg might be good too it just happened to not proc in the one game I tried it, but I feel like that's pretty common for nami

on rakan though I lost to an echoes of helia doing a lot of both dmg and healing, idk if it's good on rakan but I literally died to it so lol maybe

Cupic thinks echoes of helia is best on nami so maybe. It also could be good on janna, yuumi, idk