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S12 ending notes
by The Tank Man on The Tank Man 1673664149748 |
As opposed to my usual uselessly abstract posts, these are uselessly concrete. However there were a few takeaways I focused on for the last games of the season:
Laning:
-don't get autod for free when your adc can't auto back
-don't get cced, especially in front of enemy adc, but almost never worth
-don't die to ganks
Later:
-don't walk fog/bushes, especially when rushing to a fight
-don't go without teammates
Notes:
janna kaisa vs rakan jhin
cant waste q vs rakan can engage
rengar bot - lose fight if he jump you from bush so don't walk up to it
rakan still bot not herald - instead of hitting herald go recall run bot to stop dive
sona twitch vs nami lucian
they low under tower but their jg can get there - patient don't walk up
don't get chunked before fight
nami close under tower just press w don't wait for react
behind and no ults cant end 5v4 mid
janna zilean vs nautilus draven
naut hook into root - q immediately during root and exh draven
low vs ap shyv - need to just recall or r? maybe r if stay for drag idk or accept team gap on drag
sona ezreal vs soraka twitch
need ward river before walking up lane
no play mid - stay bot so twitch cant kill ez
twitch invis and we hit tower - save w chord for his ap burst
sona ashe vs nami tristana
ping they not bot going mid
fed kat - cant walk over dagger or get bursted, care while chasing in fight
sona kaisa vs zilean aphelios
aphelios switching red to purple gun gets root combo - care gank setup at 3 minutes
just ignite belveth to secure kill
kaisa gets 1 for 1 on gank then cant turn so just leave
again red/purple combo with galeforce/zilean sets up gank
maybe w chord belveth also belveth does 1000 dmg cant step in + baron
sona jhin vs thresh cait
cant walk up if thresh can cc you in range of cait
maybe time ult with zoe going back on r
herald still up and jhin boots vs galeforce doesnt want to 2v1 - just go herald
sona tris vs amumu kalista
cant eat even one amumu q lvl 1 forwards in lane
ping roam top
sona mf vs lux jhin
blitz waiting bot cant go 2v3
cant get vision vs blitz lux need to wait
crucible always on 4?
sona twitch vs naut kalista
never hooked unless completely free, chaotic fights bad vs naut/kalista
sona twitch vs naut kaisa
kill naut he runs mid - ping mid
kass missing top and naut hanging around alone - ward bushes before pushing
into drag naut hook from bush so walk behind maokai - cant ward without him
sett runs into tower - r as soon as he takes aggro?
lulu vayne vs bard twitch
can feel trundle gank that burns flash - dont walk up
bard/trundle in river cant walk mid
gwen lvl 17 cant facecheck
look graves going in R him
sona mf vs alistar kaisa
ali q 14s up again somehow?
missed xp not 3 off of minion
sona cait vs renata kalista
cant r qiyana from stealth - start with exh
maybe exh start vs ekko as well - wait for ekko e to r him
sona ezreal vs renata aphelios
looking for dive but they low - aph/renata step to bush they can aphelios with kindred
aphelios goes herald ping renata?
care mid for maokai R flank
sona jhin vs amumu samira
cant walk up to tower without 6 and flash vs amumu 6 and flash
hang back until amumu r - amumu q on qiyana flash away from her
ideally get vision behind qiyana
dont go up to auto irelia on GA - need to wait amumu r
lulu kaisa vs blitz samira
junglers fighting raptors - can't walk into bush without vision, blitz waits to hook as you move belveth jumps wall cant check drag
belveth kraken cant fight herald
sona mf vs leona ezreal
ward bush as you leave it - cant walk back into it without vision or leona e
if leona e you flash away before root
sona ezreal vs pyke tristana
karthus just walks into lane - cant fight just walk away, he is 5 and hits 6 or has r
chunked by karth r cant walk up past ez until heal full or pyke e r on you
ap varus r - dodge or flash arrow after because it procs 3 stacks
lulu ashe vs nami yasuo
windwall - don't walk into it or around it just walk back
lulu draven vs thresh aphelios
care pushing in zoe bot cant fight
lulu jhin vs naut cait
lane fked by lvl 1 - need to stay out of naut hook range until we equal cant eat 1v2
we rush baron - diana going to come steal baron so step between her and pit to get poly off
lulu kaisa vs yuumi ezreal
q lvl 1 space yuumi ez more patient get kited if run in
irelia stun you - gets q reset so flash immediately
they have diana top/irelia tp so take dive slow top, cant burst ww during poly
soraka cait vs renata draven
soraka hesitant teamfights - dont engage stay backline or flash out early
soraka aphelios vs maokai mf
stay bottom side of lane, vs rammus take e lvl 2
2v2 top but they have mid push and fizz goes bot cant walk up
vs engage champs like rammus r, soraka q after they go in
soraka tris vs karma kaisa
dont get chunked for free - dont go in karma w range when team weaker
lulu ezreal vs signed kaisa
singed/graves roaming - ward own lane and river and spam ping mid
ez strong tf weak so go with ez
soraka jhin vs karma mf
can never run thru panth/reksai even to get to team
sona sera vs pyke tris
walk straight away from pyke lvl 1
when tris jump in 1v2 wait for her e bomb on you to flash away
lulu zeri vs rakan sivir
both jg botside - look invade with prio not dive
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janna mf vs naut samira dont facecheck and flash naut hook if have to check release q to stop aatrox from getting into pit lulu twitch vs karma trist save w to peel in fight even if twitch r unless they 100% lost janna ashe vs pyke seraphine contestable drag need to stay with lee on it then go wave sona mf vs karthus amumu wait amumu to take tower aggro for dive sona ezreal vs karma draven dont fight pre 6 flash karma q if low sona nilah vs bard trundle trundle gank like 3 min dont die to jg sona seraphine vs janna sivir dont get cced in adc range space trades sona vayne vs singed kaisa need ward lvl 1 vs supp sit in bush lulu mf vs panth tris mark topside - go mid out of base for fight dive incoming - save q to slow panth taking tower aggro sona karma vs renata sivir cant go up into 1v2 triangle where they can both hit you nunu gank - r him and flash snowball flanked by renata in bush need to ward collapse on one side lulu draven vs zilean pyke vs akali need to e so can w/exh her through shroud sona sivir vs bard seraphine ping bard roam out of base ^stay to get cs -> bard resets first -> ping earlier janna swain vs yuumi kaisa vs diana aoe engage stay behind team - don't follow engage on aatrox just to auto him, stay back to r position channel safe when team pushing sidelanes/doing nothing - be patient dont go up sometimes just do nothing dont die their mid push/back, our mid push/back later, their mid push mid out and roam - dont die to roam timer if win lane and swap out care vs their fed lane care dont die save poly for w enemy fight lulu tris vs amumu xerath when vibes bad - team sidelane or just not walking up - cant go up lulu cait vs sona draven no cds and cant walk up to trade with draven just start ward honestly need in tri with no flash lulu sivir vs pyke seraphine viego holding stun to wait out sivir e so poly him cant do much 2v1 sivir vs seraphine probably roam plant is greed vs pyke alone sona xerath vs janna syndra walking to fight through fog - keep camera on self and care own path not low hp teammate garen strong heal before his r lulu nilah vs swain lucian steroids/cc on ad attack speed champs - our nilah their yone, not our fizz their vlad lulu jinx vs soraka nilah vs fiddlesticks - cant ward over wall or go up without vision, need to stay back not get ulted ^also when fiddlesticks has vision of you mid lulu vayne vs bard samira pushing up to tower need ward lulu draven vs taric yasuo they try dive top = need to ward tri for fiora and stay until she has safe recall want to ward baron but kha can hop wall - need to ward over blue pit first before going up ^alone so has to be slow if no vision on baron whatever but cant die alone sona mf vs nami lucian when they dive nami takes aggro - auto nami since she has aggro as soon as luc goes in with e/galeforce need to r him even if cant turn sona swain vs xerath zeri obvious they get 2 first - don't go back in to hit minion we have crab but need tri warded too to not get ganked vs hec e stand apart/down lane so no pressure on you to flash auto xerath at his tower greedy because too close -> he can stun/zeri run down belveth gets reset on vayne kill so stay in fight with her cant chase past swain - stay behind even as chasing fight sona jinx vs ashe mf early armor not good actually vs runes and mf e 3 pts w sona mf vs taric sivir cant walk near bush vs taric with comet mf - dont get cced sona mf vs renata draven they hit 2 first sona draven vs lulu twitch draven at tower - cant fight drag 3v4 no mana cant stay vs yone their twitch ahead cant hit his tower sona ashe vs renata zeri drag fight their kass moving our yas still mid - cant trade with zeri need wait yas looking mid but gp/ashe far back and they have j4/kass engage so cant go in soraka aphelios vs rakan ezreal need rush zhonyas vs qiyana eve rakan no dark seal room rakan w coming back up cant hold wave vs eve need to stay right on top of aphelios always sona jinx vs rakan sivir vs skarner - need to r skarner before he gets in range of jinx stay with jinx and r early soraka sivir vs yuumi nilah nilah dashes through you - q on self no flash - stay away/behidn sivir to not get aoe cc by nilah/yuumi sona tahm vs blitz ezreal stay behind tahm cant slip forward/side when trading dont back for item if staying on map is better (herald fight coming with noc r) sona janna vs nami lucian vs luc nami dont trade at all early space far back and with w chord vs fiora parry r her as soon as she gets close before she can w as part of her combo sona sivir vs pyke seraphine karth gank at 3 min while trundle top crab - need ward also care before sivir spell shield care seraphine ult from range while fighting - ready to flash low vs pyke - ready to stopwatch pyke r no cds/bad position maybe give drag sona aphelios vs karma zeri walk to lane care kha leap behind tower facechecking baron bush - cant walk into akali e sona zeri vs amumu swain a bit out of lane amumu q - stay all the wave in lane janna zeri vs pyke sivir need ward lvl 1 vs pyke if focused keep running away until both pyke/sivir stop chasing then can turn cant get low from trades vs nunu janna zeri vs alistar yasuo space tower vs ali chasing teamfight as janna - stay behind team, especially as going into bush feel gwen turn sona zeri vs naut sivir weakside with jg coming - need to wait for jg to get in front getting ganked from left so stay right side of lane soraka sivir vs sona zeri sweeper means fewer wards care gank far on q - q direction sona going no moonstone vs sona moonstone - cant win extended fight sona mf vs pyke seraphine - stay alive even while team fights seraphine r counterengage - care when following into fight and into choke corridor, ready to flash pyke still alive - just leave fight until like half hp sona seraphine vs ashe mf fed side vs fed darius - r darius as soon as he goes melee range of yi ashe r from fog - care walking up mid janna heimer vs pyke sivir our mid comes back from base, their mid has roam timer - cant clear pink, need ward tri flash not in line from pyke q sona jhin vs rakan samira walking to diana but samira in jg - care dont get caught while walking to fight cant walk up mid vs zac rakan - need to go back not right, stay alive not move toward team sidelane cant facecheck drag - team not there before so don't go tp mid - again cant walk to side need to go straight back sona seraphine vs lulu twitch need ward bush lvl 1 vs twitch or he goes up with ambush lulu dead to seraphine r/combo/auto on way out - don't need to keep going forwards, don't eat twitch autos ahri very fed - e away and stay behind galio cant get charmed zilean jinx vs alistar ashe can kind of feel gank - stay away from ali ready to flash his flash combo sona aphelios vs taric jhin taric in bush - space e as he walks out of it taric stuns from bush - stay a bit farther from bush and walk back as soon as he walks out fight lost dont stay to auto janna jhin vs rakan sivir hec R up - items a lot of cdr - chemtech murumana seryldas chempunk lucidity flash hec r to the side - mouse ready 3v4 mid dont follow close/auto, hec used r but rakan still has ^count engages (hec, rakan, vlad) soraka jhin vs sona sivir as soraka maybe q adc instead of supp kill melee minions first when pushing position in fight? sona mf vs bard xayah want to collapse but too early - our team coming but yone at red, graves portal in with bard soraka jinx vs sona ashe q during their autos not at max range save e for their towerdive janna seraphine vs amumu kalista space akali always run away from her to be out of e/q range winning fight slowly vs amumu/j4 enage - stay behind dont clump/get caught by counterengage sona sivir vs nami ezreal their mid/jg coming to dive, not 6/no spells - don't keep trading with ez, just wait under tower for kindred to come cover sona zeri vs seraphine tristana sylas split bot - cant get slowed/chased down mid soraka ezreal vs sona zeri vs poppy - once her e touches you cant flash cant ward over red wall toward baron vs zeri - keep camera/mouse on self, ready to turn from laser |
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